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The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:30:00 - [1] The Star Fraction formally declares that the first phase in the war against the Amarrian paramilitary bloc has come to a close with all objectives of Operation Judas Goat met. In addition to ably serving as the Goat, the PIE corporation has cravenly relied on its admittedly brave allies in Aegis Militia to do the bulk of the fighting. In doing so, it has shown that it desperately needs the assistance of the loyalist paramilitaries of AM, VV, and now the CVA. During the course of this phase, the Star Fraction inflicted 207 kills against the allied paramilitary forces for 48 losses. We now begin Operation Slaughterhouse. This next phase of the war will be concluded and a key objective met when the Curatores Veritatis Alliance retracts its declaration of war against the Star Fraction and as it does so surrenders to the reality that they cannot defend the Empire and those who support it. Let the slaughter begin. The Freecaptains of the Star Fraction The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Tharrn Do you see the label 'Curatores Veritatis Alliance' somewhere next to my name? Do you see Jonny saying you are in the CVA? Meanwhile, let's refresh our memories about your war aims. Originally by: "Gazon" A few days ago the anarchists of The Star Fraction have declared war on our allies, PIE Inc. This unprovoked aggression cannot and will not be tolerated. For this reason, as of today, the Vigilia Valeria Alliance [-VV-] has openend hostilities towards The Star Fraction. The state of war will be maintained until such time as The Star Fraction retreat from Amarr, retract their war or cease to threaten normal trade and traffic in Amarr. Publicity stunt? I assumed not but if you think wars with that sort of objective are all about PR, perhaps that's all VV's limited involvement has been. The Star Fraction's war, on the other hand, is very definitely not a mere stunt. We look forward to the struggle continuing. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 09:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Your first objective could have been met by one pilot undocking in a frigate every now and then. That would have ben sufficient for you to claim you have "operated against loyalist forces". I am afraid the Star Fraction uses a rather more meaningful standard of measuring success in operating in space which includes being able to inflict significant damage on our enemies, Amarrian loyalists, mercenaries and other entities alike, together with undertaking logistical activities in a warzone (which we have done this week) and other numerous tasks and actions which are part and parcel of any effective corporations operations. It is instructive to note the PIE standard as you state it, however. Quote: Your second objective can be met by a one pilot alliance who doesn't even have to interface with his pod interface. After all, if CVA retracts it's war against such a pilot you "win". Leaving aside wonderment at why the CVA would do such a thing as declare war against a single pilot if the notion is not a spurious rhetorical device, I think it is clear enough that if the CVA cannot stop us from operating against Amarrian loyalists in the Amarr Empire and then retract their war it would be a win for us. Quote: Valour has been shown by many of your individual pilots - and some, including yourself, has also shown a cordial and respectful behavior. You have my respect for that. But the objectives of Star Fiction itself seems to imply that the alliance has little confidence in it's pilots. Why else would the objectives stated be of a kind that you simply cannot help to fulfill eventually? In the first instance, I note that while you commend me for 'respectful behaviour' you don't show much respect in actual fact. If you re-read your post in its entirety, you may take my point. If you don't, no great matter. Secondly, the objective imply no such thing as lack of confidence in our pilots. If you think that the CVA has no stomach for an extended conflict, that is up to you. I on the other hand believe that the CVA is a capable force and that the struggle will be long and brutal. I expect the conflict to continue for some time until the CVA, by our actions in space, comes to understand that it cannot drive us out of Amarrian space. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 10:57:00 - [4] The Star Fraction has stated an objective for this phase of the operation very clearly. The Star Fraction does not dock up and refuse to engage enemies in order to meet goals it has set. We will meet our goals by acting in space and we will continue to actively fight our enemies. Those who seek to say our objective is meaningless are assuming that we will use their methods in order to meet it. We shall not. We shall fight and we shall continue to fight until the objective is met. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 13:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: The Cosmopolite This next phase of the war will be concluded and a key objective met when the Curatores Veritatis Alliance retracts its declaration of war against the Star Fraction Another way of expressing your objective would be: "Anything but the complete and utter annihilation of SF will be seen as a victory by us". Incorrect. That is an entirely different claim and is not the what we are seeking to say. The objective is as we stated it. Describe your own objectives if you wish but ours are quite clear and not subject to your mischievous word-twisting interpretations. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 13:56:00 - [6] Somebody who relies on CONCORD rules to establish a slave-processing facility in Gallentean space can be safely ignored when he criticises others for taking advantage of the general environment in which all capsuleers in empire space operate. We have waived the protection of CONCORD in the case of PIE and we do not complain that other Amarrian paramilitaries have chosen to declare against us. So the complaints that we rely on CONCORD are totally fantastic and without foundation. Originally by: Archbishop Chalk up another one behind Venal, the NVA, the GNW, the Curse/RA wars, the Bleaklands, Karishals Folly, etc etc etc, in the long line of Star Fraction humiliations and failures. In all those conflicts you also claimed some sort of "victory" yet in all cases we know what happend. The circumstances surrounding the VA and NVA are well-known to be highly controversial and subject to conflicting interpretations. Of course, you choose a simplistic option. Jericho Fraction actually received surrenders from notable opponents in the GNW and the executor of the Star Fraction has these on record. We claimed no victory in Curse or over the Red Alliance. We claimed no victory in the Bleaklands (I think you have confused us with someone else in your haste to cobble the list together). We certainly claimed no victory in the matter of Karishal's Defiance. I should add that we admitted at the time of the first CVA-SF War that we had not achieved our goals and withdrew. We gained a clear victory over the Kimotoro Alliance which now is totally defunct. We were victorious in our fight against the Cyrene Initiative. The suggestion that we claim victories we have not earned is a lie and ignores our clear record of admitting when we have not achieved our goals. Your entire statement is riddled with falsehoods and deliberate lies. You are the one that has fallen. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 14:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss If you have no intention of going into Providence, then you can not effect the CVA in any meaningful manner. I thought the point of drawing CVA out was to defeat them, do you not intend to defeat the Amarr paramilitary forces as you have done in the past to the Caldari, Gallente and I supose you plan to do to the Minmatar later down the road? If you intend to defeat the CVA the only way you can is to break their zone of empire exspantion in Providence, if you do not intend to defeat them then why draw them into a war you aren't planning to win? It will be a long war. We will fight the current phase in the stated terms and in the theatre of engagement we have selected at this time. I will not reveal our longer-term plans or pander to the speculations of others as to future actions. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 16:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Archbishop Allow me to correct a few misconceptions for you Cosmo so you have all the facts. 1. Port Sanctuary, described in detail in this thread here has never been marketed as a slave facility. Rather it is an academy of sorts (read the description). You can call it what you wish, the reality is that it is a slave-processing facility and run by a slaver organisation that you are the driving force behind. I don't think anyone who opposes the Amarrian slave-trade is in any way fooled by your spurious labelling of it as some kind of charitable institute. It's a grotesquery and typical for you. Quote: 2. Port Sanctuary was actually set to be constructed OUTSIDE Gallente space between the two Empires in .5 space as it was the closet point between two locations. This was done because of standings issues that could not be resolved (and for a sense of realism). I don't know what you mean by 'realism' but your press release makes clear you intended to site it in Gallente space. Originally by: "Port Sanctuary press release" Port Sanctuary will be located in Gallente space in a .7 security level system and will feature state of the art facilities and training modules to prepare new servants for their future destiny. This station was originally going to be located near the border however a Gallente representative of the Federation kindly visited our other Port Facility and was convinced after a small donation to his reelection campaign to allow Port Sanctuary to be constructed actually inside Gallente Federation space. This flatly contradicts you and is the public statement of the original intentions. If you have encountered difficulties since and have to place it in some mysterious 0.5 system 'between the two Empires' I simply celebrate that fact. Quote: 3. Concord does not respond to attacks on POS stations regardless of security level thus it is completely removable.... unlike your presence in an NPC controlled station like Emperor (which is completely unremovable due to mechanics). I suggest you try it. At the current time there is a case at law before CONCORD arguing that POS should not be protected by CONCORD from war enemies. At this time, they are. I know what I am talking about in this matter so again, you're simply wrong. Quote: Any other misconceptions from the Star Fiction? Archbishop There were none to begin with. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.13 16:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Kaiso Ohad Originally by: The Cosmopolite We will meet our goals by acting in space I should have known this was too good to be true. It is true and will be shown to be true. If you wish to restrict yourself to space only, fine. We will fight in space and speak as we see fit. Doing one does not imply you don't do the other. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:28:00 - [10] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 15:26:40 Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne Originally by: The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction does not dock up and refuse to engage enemies in order to meet goals it has set. So when was the exact moment this policy changed to "We will continue to fight you when we can score some easy kills and hide when you are the ones outnumbering us." ? It hasn't, if you are referring to the battle in Amarr last night, I will simply state the facts. In Amarr last night, a Star Fraction fleet number approximately 30 engaged elements of a unified Amarrian Loyalist fleet numbering some 60. Some 11 loyalist ships were destroyed, including 3 battleships, 2 battlecruisers and 2 elite cruisers. The Star Fraction fleet lost 6 ships, consisting of 2 battleships and 4 interceptors. Shortly after a significant period of combat maneouvers by both sides, during which the above losses were sustained on each side, the Amarr system's navigation and communication network suffered some kind of overload. Faced with the possibility of being paralysed in space, the Star Fraction fleet commander ordered all ships to dock if able to do so. A general order was then given to stand down for 1 hour and relax according to each freecaptain's tastes. At the finish of this hour, the Star Fraction fleet undocked and patrolled Amarrian space, destroying another loyalist ship, and engaging various mercenaries/wolfsheads of the Privateers alliance. I may say, that I would not have felt it necessary to state these simple facts if you had not decided to comment on something that was the result of a sustained system-wide NeoCom and warp-guide degradation and in some cases failure in Amarr. Were it not for that issue the battle would have continued for much longer. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:59:00 - [11] It is simply a fact that SF pilots did not dock to avoid the numbers present in Amarr last night. No-one in SF has claimed that a ship loss is not a loss for us. Quite the reverse. We have always stated that losses are comparable. SF uses a simple system of counting and has never accused PIE of being obsessed with numbers when they publish their own statistics but has, rather, only done so when PIE has sought to accuse us of misrepresenting the state of the war with these figures, using false statistics and other spurious accusations. Thank you, Monsignor, for showing that telling lies and indulging in Archbishoptrickery runs in your family. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 16:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne How convenient for you that we decided to stop wasting out time camping your "freecaptains" after about one hour then. The fact remains that you had active pilots docked in that station while we had a fleet outside ready to fight you. It's simply a fact. I don't tell lies. Our captains decided not to undock into the issues affecting the system and an hour break was called. Your force did not arrive until after that call. We did have a brave covert scout who was able to at least view events outside through the chaos of his ship systems. Quote: But dont get me wrong here. I'm not holding it against you. Just wondering what happend to that general sounding "The Star Fraction does not dock up and refuse to engage enemies" when we were there waiting for you to undock. We did not dock due to the presence of your forces. We engaged your forces in Amarr last night. Are you suggesting we did not? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 17:01:00 - [13] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 17:00:24 Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne I am merely pointing out that there were active "freecaptains" docked in system and unwilling to engage us even after amarr had returned to normal conditions. True. Some were active in the station, while others were not, and decided not to undock their ships into a fleet numbering at various points between 40 and 60 ships. We undocked when all pilots reported for duty at the agreed time exactly 1 hour later. If you do not have the patience for extended warfare, that is your problem. We do and the war will continue. Overall, The Star Fraction did not dock up ahead of the battle and refuse to engage your fleet at all despite our foreknowledge that it outnumbered us considerably. Otherwise, how to explain inflicting the losses on your fleet that we did? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 17:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Amira Silvermist Comedy... pure comedy. I continue to think highly of the bravery of Aegis Militia pilots who have engaged us in the war thus far. I may extend that to you if you choose to join your fellows in combat. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 17:40:00 - [15] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 17:37:33 Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne which one is it now? did they "decided not to undock their ships into a fleet" or did they "not...refuse to engage your fleet"? Quite simply we engaged a fleet of some 60 with our fleet of some 30. Pilots docked when it was absolutely necessary to do so in the judgement of the commander. No fleet was outside the station when a 1 hour stand-down was called. Pilots on duty then fell to around 10 members as others refreshed themselves or carried out other activities following the battle. Those 10 pilots did not undock into a waiting fleet of 60 because by avoiding what you choose to call a 'fight' they would be ready to take part in a fight when the hour was up. Sadly, the Amarrian fleet dispersed over that hour as it did not have the patience we had expected of them. However, we undocked and patrolled Amarrian space, destroying a PIE interceptor that tried to trail us and finding no other Amarrians in space, engaged other forces we were at war with. Quote: as i wrote earlier i am very well aware of the earlier engagement. in fact at least one of your pilots should have noted my pressence there. i was merely wondering why you did not stick to your earlier claim that your "freecaptains" would not dock and avoid fights. I stated that the Star Fraction does not dock up and refuse to engage enemies in order to meet goals it has set. We engaged your forces numbering some 60 to our 30. We inflicted losses on your fleet for fewer losses on our part. We did not avoid the fight. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 17:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne Also note that your earlier statement "The Star Fraction does not dock up and refuse to engage enemies in order to meet goals it has set." does not include any numbers to specify when it is supposed to stand true and when it can be safely ignored. We engaged 60 ships with 30 and inflicted a number of losses for fewer in return. We did not dock up in order to avoid any fight. The statement remains completely true. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 18:09:00 - [17] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 18:14:07 Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 18:13:27 Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne Originally by: The Cosmopolite Our pilots were docked and refusing to waste themselves in a futile battle that could not possibly be won. Thank you. You are most welcome and thank you for misquoting me and proving that PIE make most of their points by quoting out-of-context yet again. We engaged 60 ships with 30 and inflicted a number of losses for fewer in return. We did not dock up in order to avoid the fight. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 18:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne Oh i'm sorry about adding that period there at the end. meant to do three little dots. I'll fix that and even include a version with the full sentence for you here: Originally by: The Cosmopolite Our pilots were docked and refusing to waste themselves in a futile battle that could not possibly be won when they could preserve themselves for a mere hour when all our pilots would be ready to engage the enemy. Most welcome. It surprised me that pilots of my race did not have the patience to remain for the fight that would have ensued when the SF fleet was at full pilot-strength again. No matter, there will be other fights, I am sure of that. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.14 23:18:00 - [19] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/04/2007 23:17:10 Originally by: Merdaneth I am currently on a religious retreat at an Amarrian monastery and will remain here for at least three more weeks. As such I will be unable to undock, and today is the only time I am allowed to establish contact with entities outside of the monastery. If Star Fraction so desires they can use my retreat for propaganda purposes and add me to their makebelieve list of pilots unwilling to undock. [...] I would advice my brothers in the CVA to neglect paying Concord war fees for just one day after the first week and then re-declaring the war to show the utter meaninglessness of Star Fraction¦s self-proclaimed victory conditions. To my brothers in PIE I can only say, continue to fly with God and navigate your ships away from Star Fraction¦s Flying Circus. There is little honor to be gained in fighting deluded madmen who pose little threat to the things we deem important. Your dedicated service to the Empire stands strong as ever. Your retreat will not be used for any such propaganda purposes. We do not propagandise about pilots who are temporarily or permanently planetside for whatever reason. However, I seem to see you suggesting that PIE continue not to engage us while complaining about a 'makebelieve list' of pilots who are unwilling to engage. Rather odd and self-contradictory but I will attribute it to you having whipped yourself into a state of religious fervour. I understand some religious savants utter seemingly nonsensical and paradoxical speeches when in the height of their superstitious frenzies. I won't hold it against you though. As for your suggestion to the CVA, I find it bizarre, a trifle petty and I think that they are probably above such chicanery. If they not, however, we shall have something to laugh about. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:38:00 - [20] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: The Cosmopolite However, I seem to see you suggesting that PIE... After all of your false accusations about PIE officers "putting words into your mouth", I find it odd that you would do just that. I have made no such false accusations. True ones, certainly. Originally by: Merdaneth To my brothers in PIE I can only say, continue to fly with God and navigate your ships away from Star Fraction¦s Flying Circus. Originally by: Merdaneth If Star Fraction so desires they can use my retreat for propaganda purposes and add me to their makebelieve list of pilots unwilling to undock. The first quote, as I carefully qualified, seems to recommend that PIE continue to keep their ships away from the Star Fraction, thus failing to engage, while the second complains of a 'make believe list' (which is certainly make believe in one sense, as it doesn't exist) of pilots unwilling to undock, thus failing to engage. I quoted Merdaneth in full on those points and I have not put any words in his mouth. I simply think the two remarks are somewhat in conflict with one another. If there is some other meaning to his remarks which can reconcile them, I look forward to hearing it. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.16 18:48:00 - [21] Originally by: "Vigilia Valeria objectives" The state of war will be maintained until such time as The Star Fraction retreat from Amarr, retract their war or cease to threaten normal trade and traffic in Amarr. Originally by: Rodj Blake Merely pointing out that SF's victory conditions allow them to claim a defeat as a victory. You own logic applies to Vigilia Valeria's objectives if you come up with a hypothetical such as your scenario: eg. a situation where SF destroys PIE to the same degree, retracts its war declaration and moves on to other business. In that case, VV could claim 'victory' on the ashes of PIE if they really wished to. Personally, I think such hypothetical logic-chopping is utterly sterile and people will judge the reality in space for themselves. I will be quite clear about something though. If SF is effectively destroyed as an entity we will have the courage and honesty to admit it is so and accept defeat. Let us hope, at least, that the same will hold true for Amarrian loyalist groups. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.18 15:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Hardin They sit in Amarr and dock whenever they face any fleet that threatens to give them a decent fight. A 30 ship fleet does not inflict more losses on a 60 ship fleet than it takes itself by avoiding the fight. A 20 ship fleet does not rout another 20 ship fleet by avoiding the fight. A 10 ship fleet does not destroy a 10 ship fleet by avoiding the fight. These were all decent fights. Perhaps Hardin has another definition of a 'decent fight' in mind but these three examples alone make his statement false. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.18 15:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Hardin My information indicates that Star Fraction consistently dock when threatened by CVA assets. I am sure you will deny it in able Star Fraction fashion but that is the feedback I have received from my colleagues in the CVA. They are telling you lies. I suggest you ask Aralis how he was relieved of command of a Damnation class Command Battlecruiser and sent howling to his clone bay by Star Fraction pilots who 'consistently dock when threatened by CVA assets'. For your reference, as you seem ignorant of events, this occurred during a battle between two 20-strong fleets. A 20-strong fleet is very much a threat to another 20-strong fleet. This is one fact among many that very straightforwardly shows you are talking nonsense. Quote: The fact remains that since Cosmopolite announced the launch of Operation Slaughterhouse against the CVA your alliance has consistently squatted in Amarr. Why? We declared war on the PIE loyalists based in the Empire. Operation Slaughterhouse was not launched against the CVA. Operation Slaughterhouse is a response to the CVA declaring war against us. If the CVA don't like the fact we operate in Empire they can either stay away or try to remove us. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.18 16:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Hardin Oh so this is not a war against the CVA when your stated objective is to get us to retract our war? Nice try but our objective for this phase of the campaign is to see you retract the war you declared against us. Given you declared against us this objective is a clear and understandable one. I am 100% certain that if we retracted our war against PIE it would be cheered to the echo as a victory for them and a loss for us. It is a stated aim of the Vigilia Valeria alliance to see us retract our war against PIE. So your empty protestations that it is for us to come charging down to Providence when our war is against PIE and anyone who chooses to help them miss the mark entirely. We will continue to wage war unrelenting against PIE whether you are involved or not. Don't want to be involved? Go away. Do want to be involved? Come and fight where the war is. It's entirely up to you. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal

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